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Mac OS Trash Error Message: "This item will be deleted immediately." 28 Nov 2017 00:50 #8864

I have an iMac (27-inch, Mid 2011) running OS X El Capitan (10.11.6 (15G17023)). The startup disk is a 120 GB Solid State SATA Drive and I have an internal 1 TB SATA Disk for document storage.


When I delete an item from the Solid State SATA Drive, the item is moved to the Trash and I can choose to empty the trash at a later time.

When I try to delete an item from the internal SATA Disk, I get the alert message: "This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action."

Can TechTool Pro 9 be used to fix this issue? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Mac OS Trash Error Message: "This item will be deleted immediately." 28 Nov 2017 02:08 #8865

It has been years since I have seen this problem. By searching for "El Capitan" and the exact text of the error message, I found this thread:

discussions.apple.com/thread/7572682?start=0&tstart=0

Try the solution outlined by Link Davis. It involves pasting one line of text into the Terminal application, located in /Applications/Utilities. He states at that the invisible Trash folder in your user folder has been replaced by a file. So, the reason the file you are trying to delete must be deleted immediately rather than put in the invisible Trash folder is that the Trash folder itself is gone(!). When you launch Terminal, the current directory is the one for the current user, so there is no need to change the current directory before creating the new Trash folder, which has its name preceded by a period, to make it invisible. Link Davis' command says to move the file named .Trash to a temporary directory, then create a folder named .Trash at the top level of the current user's home folder. It makes sense that this should work.

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Mac OS Trash Error Message: "This item will be deleted immediately." 03 Mar 2018 20:27 #9464

From reading the forums it seems other's, though only a couple, have experienced this problem.

I've been experiencing this same problem after upgrading to Techtool Pro 9.5.3 and I am now reluctant to install the new 9.6 update until I know the problem is fixed.

Currently I have un-installed Techtool Pro as part of fixing this problem on my system.Two rounds of successfully correcting the problem, only to have it come back after re-installation of Techtool Pro and Techtool Pro Protection has convinced me the problem lies with the installation of the Protection.

The only process that has successfully worked, for me, is to un-install Techtool Pro, boot off of a USB thumb drive, goto terminal and remove the root '.Trashes' directories from my internal boot SSD drive and my external hard drive, then do a disk repair on the drives, un-mount and re-mount all of the affected drives (the OS then re-builds the '.Trashes' directories), re-start from the SSD drive and finally to login to each user account and check ownership and permissions are OK.

Regards,
Frank
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Mac OS Trash Error Message: "This item will be deleted immediately." 03 Mar 2018 20:39 #9465

I've experiences this very same problem since upgrading to Techtool Pro 9.5.3 and have since un-installed as the problem returns with re-intallation after correcting the problem. Each time I have corrected the problem by removing the root ".Trashes" directory from all affected drive, internal and external.

Two rounds of correcting the problem, to only have it come back, leaves me reluctant to install the new 9.6 update.

My suspicion is the Techtool Protection may be at the core of the problem and is changing the ownership and permissions of the '.Trashes' directories locate at each hard disk's root.

Does the new 9.6 update contain a fix for this problem?

Regards,
Frank
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Mac OS Trash Error Message: "This item will be deleted immediately." 03 Mar 2018 20:41 #9466

Sorry about the duplicate post, did not see the review banner after the first post,
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Mac OS Trash Error Message: "This item will be deleted immediately." 03 Mar 2018 20:51 #9467

Thanks for your clear and detailed report.

Please note that the original poster did not claim that any part of TechTool Pro was the cause of the problem, but instead asked if TechTool Pro could fix the problem.

I have not seen any other reports of this problem with TechTool Protection as the suspected cause, and do not see why the Trash History feature of TechTool Protrctyion would be changing ownership and permissions of the /.Trashes directory. Please send a message to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , including a link to this thread. You will receive a reply by email on Monday. Thank you.

In the meantime, you could leave TechTool Pro installed and simply turn off Trash History in the TechTool Protection system preferences pane.
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Last Edit: 03 Mar 2018 20:59 by micromattech3.
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